Ask a Buckeye!
Editor's note: Now that Bobby Petrino has stepped decisively off the coaching carousel, we can return our attention to the true matter at hand - the Sugar Bowl. And, in a nice stroke of luck for all of us, our new #1 favorite Buckeye fan Jon Ross has offered to answer any questions about the game you can ask (in fact, he's been doing this for a few days already). So, don't hesitate to take him up on his offer (and be sure to show Jon some Southern hospitality while you're at it) - it's been a great exchange so far already.
What's up Arkansas fans?
I'm a student/rabid Ohio State fan giving you guys the opportunity to ask questions about the Buckeyes before our epic matchup in the Sugar Bowl. I would absolutely like to keep this civil, I'm not here to trash talk like a jackass lol.
Anything you want to know about the Buckeyes? Injuries, strategy, match-up questions, whatever, go ahead and ask, I'll do my best to answer all of your questions.
Good luck Jan. 4th and fire away.
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A statement and a question
I can’t speak for any other Arkansans, but my impression of Ohio State is this: It’s one of the best run programs in the nation. Ohio State is a perennial top 10, if not top 5 team. If I’m not mistaken, your football program is the second richest in the country, behind Texas. I personally am extremely excited about Arkansas getting the chance to take down one of the ‘name’ programs. I hope that our showing in the game is a harbinger of Arkansas’ return to the national elite of college football.
My question is this: What is the general impression that Buckeye fans have about Arkansas as a program, a university and a state?
Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen. :)
Interesting question.
Well, I will speak for myself here;
1. Arkansas as a program:
-Well coached, always solid yet never spectacular. Produces top tier athletes (Mcfadden, etc.), and beats/challenges top-programs fairly regularly recently (LSU 2007, ‘Bama/Auburn 2010) but never really is a threat to win the whole thing (no offense). Good location as far as getting athletes from the south and Texas, but not in a solid recruiting state itself, and probably would be better served in the B12 as opposed to the SEC for consistent national relevance. Not to be overlooked however, and with Petrino has a good shot to regularly compete for the SEC title and be a top 10 team or the foreseeable future.
2. Arkansas as a university:
-Good school, one of the first land-granters (like us) and produced Bill Clinton. I honestly don’t know about the academics, but would assume they are good, the perception is that Arkansas is “smarter” (whatever the hell that means) than an Alabama or Mississippi for example.
3. Arkansas as a state:
-No idea really, has nice weather and not horrible winters like us Ohioans. Seems like a state that has its shit together, never really on the news for struggling economically (like a California or Michigan), but that could be because the Arkansas economic situation isn’t a hot topic issue for Columbus television stations lol
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Bill Clinton
Graduated from Georgetown undergrad, Yale Law School, not the U of A. He did teach there briefly however before being elected Governor in 1978.
See,
We’re already clearing up misconceptions lol. I bet if you asked 100 Northerners, 80 would assume Bill Clinton went to Arkansas.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Fie, curses and a pox upon you
for suggesting we should be in the big12.
Other than that, Welcome!
Awww. c'mon girl.
No, no no,
I didn’t say you should be in the Big 12, I just said it would be easier to compete! That Pony Excess doc on ESPN was excellent/fascinating. What made Arkansas go to the SEC instead of the Big 12 when the SWC was folding?
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
most notably, the Big 12 didn't exist yet
Arkansas leaving the SWC was really what initiated it folding, and then the Texas teams scattered to the Big 12 and other less glamorous places.
Our AD at that time, Frank Broyles, is both a legendary and controversial figure around the state, but deserves a lot of credit for having the foresight to recognize that joining the SEC was a great move for both competitive and business reasons. If not for that, we probably would have been one of those schools like Texas Tech or Kansas that was on the verge of getting completely screwed when it looked like the Big 12 was going to dissolve earlier this year.
slight clarification to the above
The Big 12 didn’t come into being until the top Texas teams from the SWC joined the Big 8 when the SWC disbanded in the mid 90s.
more on Arkansas to SEC
It was a brilliant move by then AD Frank Broyles to have Arkansas join the SEC. At the time the SWC was Texas, Texas A&M, and the rest. Arkansas had always been the step-child of the league. Texas and A&M were looking to move before Arkansas did. FB basically pulled a fast one over the Texas Schools by getting into the SEC before they had an opportunity to talk to the conference.
I still cringe every time someone says that Arkansas should join the Big 12. Why would we want to leave the SEC were we are competitive in all sports (ok we are still down in Basketball, but we did lead the transformation of the SEC from a football only conference to a player in all sports) to go to the Big 12 where our recruiting would start to shrink as we would become one of Texas’s little sisters. I would like to see the SEC expand to add A&M and Missouri into the ranks to give the Hogs two natural rivalries but I don’t see that happening just yet.
Certainly from a prestige and monetary standpoint,
being a member of the SEC is much better for Arkansas. My only point was that it would probably be easier for Arkansas to beat Baylor, K-State and OK-State than it is for them to beat Tennessee, Georgia and Ole’ Miss. Arkansas belongs in the SEC, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be easier for them to win the Big XII.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
The strength of our defense is their speed (Gasp! a Big Ten team?). Our defensive line and linebackers aren’t very big, but they all can run. Middle linebacker Brian Rolle is 5’10’’ 220 but runs like a deer and makes plays all over the field. And Outside line backer Ross Homan is excellent at tackling and making big plays at big times. Cam Heyward is large on the D-line, but really athletic and Nathan Williams is a solid edge rusher. The speed and (relative) lightness of our defense makes them very apt at shutting down speed rushing attacks (Oregon, Michigan, Purdue) but susceptible to power attacks (see Wisconsin game). Our defensive tackle (Dexter Larimore) probably plays more because he is a senior than because he is significantly better than his backup (Jonathan Hankins, a 355lb monster), a true freshman. If the guard and center can get Larimore out of the hole then the smallness of Rolle becomes a problem if the running back has a head of steam. I don’t know if the Arkansas’ ground attack is more speed based or power-I based, but if it is the latter, they may have success.
Our defense is very good at forcing turnovers, so ball security is going to be an issue for Arkansas, if they make mistakes, our defense will capitalize.
The secondary is missing a “name brand” player for maybe the first time in Jim Tressel’s tenure (there is no Mike Doss, Donte Whitner, Malcom Jenkins or Kurt Coleman) but they make up for it with experience (both CBs and one S are seniors). Chekwa and Torrence are the corners, they are reasonably fast and usually always near the receiver. Occasionally Torrence misses open field tackles, so Arkansas will have the opportunity for YACs, Chekwa’s tackling is solid however. Both have great hands, but can sometimes be a victim of losing the ball in the air, leading to a completion despite solid coverage. FS Jermale Hines is really athletic and a big hitter, he makes plays and has probably been the best player in the secondary, FS Orhian Johnson is the weak link, he is starting because of injury and has a tendency to lose his deep zone, plays can be made because of his late coverage. Because Arkansas is a passing team they will see a lot of our “star” position, a hybrid saftey/linebacker. True freshman Christian Bryant was forced into the role due to injury, but played solid until he was injured himself. He should be ready to go for the bowl, but if not Travis Howard and Aaron Gant will see time in that role.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Update:
Christian Bryant is fully healthy and practicing normally again. He will see significant minutes on defense.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
QB compare?
Cam gave the Hogs absolute fits when Ark. played Auburn. When the Hogs rushed him he’d step up in the pocket and take off for big yardage. When the Hogs stayed back to stop his long runs he’d hit passes (as most qb’s do when they aren’t pressured). Do you see similarities in the skills/capacities/roles between Pryor and Newton?
Yes.
Pryor is a carbon copy of Newton, at least physically.
He probably isn’t as good at running in the open field (his shiftiness is poor) but his speed is elite. He will take off if it’s open, and Jim Tressel encourages it. Pryor is most effective running when the play breaks down, he isn’t great at designed QB draws, despite our insistence on calling them. Pryor has developed solidly as a passer this year, but still can be inaccurate on his short to intermediate throws. To put it simply, he tortures bad to mediocre defenses with his arm, but good defenses can limit him. This may be a function of Pryor or the offense he is running, but it’s a problem we Buckeye fans have been dealing with for 3 years lol.
If Pryor is afforded time he is good enough to make you pay with his arm, although not with the consistency or precision of a Mallet type, if the play breaks down he can run for bunches, which he will do.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
if i'm not mistaken
LSU, TAMU, and Ole Miss also had dual-threat quarterbacks. I know Arkansas won all those games, but does someone feel like looking up the stats and care to inform me how well those quarterbacks did individually?
yeah, I was afraid you'd say that.
Ark. isn’t without capacity to cope with the dual threat qb’s, as rumilb suggested (with the exception of Newton. Newton is pretty darned exceptional). So maybe Pryor won’t absolutely kill us for 200 rushing yards the way he did.
Buckeye team must be solid (11-1), and obviously well coached. Hogs have good coaches too (? special teams?), so this game should be fun to watch. (I might have said “worth the price of a ticket” … but day-um, those Sugar Bowl folks are proud of their product.)
I typically make myself another drink every time the lead changes hands. I don’t know if my liver can handle another close game.
BTW, nice job with your analysis/ observations of the team. Thanks.
Thanks, no problem.
Pryor isn’t going to rush for 200 yards, 100 is in play (he needs at least 75 or we wont win) but 200 is outside his and Tressel’s game plan. He wont get the opportunities to run the 25-30 necessary times to get 200 yards.
Student tickets to the Sugar Bowl for us were $92 each. I would go, but a 16 hour drive, plus hotel, plus classes that week is quite a large barrier to entry lol.
Apologies to your liver because I don’t see this as a blow-out either way. Too much talent/strength on strength for a blow-out.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
classes that week??
i hope you mean wintermester, because ark doesn’t come back til the 18th i think. can’t remember what student prices were for us, but i do know they sold out really quickly and that i couldnt afford the trip because of other winter break plans.
We're on quarters, not semesters.
Our Christmas break started the 9th and ends the 2nd (classes start the Monday after New Year’s)
It is nice in the Summer because we don’t start until late September, but it sucks in the spring because everyone else is out in early May and we go until June.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
seems weird to me
but of course if i went there i wouldn’t think so. looking forward to this match up, good luck to you and your silver bullets!
Looking at Pryor's passing
are most of his passes leading the receiver to a spot or do the receivers have to stop or radically adjust their route to catch his passes?
If you look at a lot of Cam’s passes you will see that his receivers made him a better QB by making catches for him, where QB’s like Luck and Mallet have the ability to put the ball where his guy can catch it (unless, like Mallett, he has too much on it)
His passes are catch able.
His deep passes are usually spot on, the shorter throws are usually in the area but not what you would call spot on.
Our receivers bail him out sometimes, but for the most part all of his passes are catch able.
For a detailed breakdown of his passing in Big Ten games, check out this link:
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/blogs/thephilipjfry/pryor-against-the-big-ten-ii
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
fantastic stuff, thanks Jon!
How would you compare this year’s Ohio State team to other recent Buckeye squads? (particularly the 2002, 2006 and 2007 editions)
Well,
2002 was unlike anything i have ever seen, that team was defense and luck, mixed with a true freshman running back and a QB that didn’t do anything stupid. I have no idea how we pulled that off.
Comparing this team to them, 2010’s offense in much more dynamic and exciting. 2002 was a lot of give the ball to Clarett and punt (our punter, Andy Groom, was the best in the nation). Krenzel was asked to hand off and then run himself, he only threw when he had to. The 2002 offensive line was much better than our current line, not to say that our current line is bad, but 2002 was great. I think Pryor actually is a bigger, stronger, faster Krenzel. He runs when he has to, he hands it off, and Tressel asks him to not do anything stupid. The difference is that Pryor is much more talented, but he basically is Krenzel, just with a bit more ability.
2006 was the year of Troy Smith. Pryor is not nearly as good as a passer/decision maker but he can make plays just as well with his feet. Our line that year was miserable in pass blocking (I still weep when I hear the name “Jarvis Moss”), but this years’ line is better, however JB Shugarts is still average at right tackle but LT Mike Adams is very good. Offensively, this years team compares closest to 2006. Dynamic, high scoring, two great wide receivers, 2 solid running backs and Tressel isn’t afraid to let Pryor make plays, ala Smith, he just isn’t as good at it. The 2006 defense was good, but not built to stop the spread passing attacks of today, this years defense is faster, lighter, more versatile and able to cover, which gives 2010 a slight defensive edge.
This years’ team isn’t better than 2002, but gives 2006 and 2007 (2007 was by far the weakest NC game participant, we were in a rebuilding year, and lucked into it) a run for their money. 2010’s defensive line is better than both 2006 and 2007, but not 2002. The linebackers and secondary of 2010 are equal with ‘06-’07, but worse than 2002.
I think this team is every bit as good as last years team (significantly better offense, marginally worse defense). But in our only real game, Wiscy jumped out to a 21-0 1st Q lead and we couldn’t catch back up, so we don’t really know how good this team is. They hammered all the cupcakes and lost to an excellent Wiscy team on the road, 11-1 is 11-1, but we didn’t really play anyone good (PSU, Mich, Iowa, Illinois were all average).
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
If I could ask a few questions:
1. Does Arkansas pass to run or run to pass?
2. Are they a power-I running team or a shotgun-draw running team?
3. How is their secondary?
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Yes, Yes, and Ehhh
Petrino’s stated goal has been run to set up the pass. But we sometimes have to abandon that. At the beginning of the season we passed A LOT and didn’t run much at all. But as we’ve started picking up steam with the emergence of Davis, we’ve been running a lot more and setting up play action. This answer depends on the flow of the game. I have a feeling we will pass on y’all first so we can pick on your somewhat weakened secondary and so we can score quick.
Again, Mallett operates quite well out of the shotgun so he’s back there a lot. But he goes under center a lot too. We can run a good draw out of the shotgun. Also, Petrino employs the pistol formation a lot.
Our secondary has been decimated. But we have a first team all-SEC safety in Tramain Thomas. He’s a ball hawk. Also, Jerico Nelson is a huge hitter at the hybrid spot. Will someone else elaborate on the secondary?
Wooo Pig
by generalrazor on Dec 14, 2010 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
the secondary has suffered a lot of injuries
By the end of the LSU game, we were down to only 1 of the 4 guys who started the season back there. Luckily the backups stepped up those last couple of games, but it’s definitely a weak spot. We made MSU’s Chris Relf look like an All-American passer at times.
Overall, the defense is of the “bend, don’t break” variety. They’ll make you nervous, but more times than not they’ve gotten the job done when they really needed to. Much better than last year, certainly.
Ark's secondary
Question #3 – I think we should also mention Rudell Crim’s contributions at safety. He’s a juco transfer who started fall camp at corner, and was moved to safety to give them more overall speed in the backfield. Very good move, and it’s cut way down on the number of times Hogs have been burned deep compared to last year. It’s fair to say that the Hog’s weak spot is considerably less weak this year than last.
Regarding run/pass plays on offense (question #1), CBP says he wants the first down plays to be 50/50 run/pass. As Gen. Razor said, it didn’t work well early in the season. Coaches really got after the O line and by mid season they started opening holes for the rb to hit. Knile is surprisingly fast to be so big. Mallet’s pass attempts and passing yards have fallen off the last 4 games because the run game was clickin’.
Legends and Leaders?
Jon, thank you for all the commentary you have provided over the last few days.
Any comments on the Legends and Leaders Divisions? (My opinion: Terrible choices). Was there no talk about having a name change from Big 10? With 11 teams, it was sometimes referred to as the “Mathematically-Challenged Conference”, but now 12? That is hard to explain to children learning to count (“See, Johnny, 6+6=Big 10”?).
by Hog Fan in Houston on Dec 15, 2010 6:47 AM CST reply actions
Me too
I’m not a big fan of “Legends & Leaders”;
what was wrong with “Bo & Woody” for the two divisions?
by David Beirne on Dec 15, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
I don't even know, man. Brutal.
We totally screwed the pooch with the “Legends” and “Leaders” thing. I mean East/West works, Hayes/Schembechler would’ve been cool, but I can see why non OSU/UM people would have been upset, Lakes/Plains could have worked if the team alignment was different.
I think Delany sat in some boardroom and watched some firm advise him that these names show “integrity, forward thinking, advancement, prestige, etc.” and that this would make the Big Ten look good, when in reality were a damn football conference not a company picnic team building group, and we look like total morons. Delany dropped the ball, he waaay over-thunk this.
In regards to the name change, I think it is smart to keep the Big Ten moniker. Lets face it, regardless of the last 5 years (and actually last year was a great post-season for the conference) the Big Ten is probably the most well known and historically prestigious conference. It has 4 of the top 7 winningest programs of all time, 3 of the 4 biggest stadiums, etc. The name “Big Ten” is more a brand, less an adjective, it makes sense to keep something that is well known. It would be similar to Gatorade changing its name because more schools than just Florida use it. A brand’s a brand.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Agreed
I can’t believe they didn’t like “Lakes & Prairies”, sure it’s inaccurate for the alignments, but why are the Dallas Cowboys in the NFC EAST and the Rams who are further east, in the NFC West?
I’m good with Big 10 as you can always say, our Ten State region where we play, our fan base is, and recruit from primarily.
by David Beirne on Dec 16, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
As a Hawkeye fan AND a Hog Fan
I am very much looking forward to this game. The Buckeyes broke this Hawkeye fan’s heart in November. Here’s hoping the Hogs give them some payback.
Arkansas has faced a number of mobile quarterbacks and has seen mixed results. But having seen this kind of team before, I think the Hogs D should at least be pretty well prepared. Pryor will get his yards, but he won’t go nuts a la Cam Newton.
Arkansas has seen some tough defenses this year, and has fared pretty well. My biggest question about this game is, how will OSU’s D fare against a team unlike any other it has seen this year?
The Hogs have an offense that started the year pretty one-dimensional but grew more balanced as the year went on. It is capable of scoring from anywhere on the field, by both run and pass. OSU is built to compete against Big Ten teams, and against its conference foes they have been dominant. But for whatever reason it just doesn’t seem to fare well against SEC Teams.
OSU got the Pac Ten monkey off its back last year by handling the Ducks. Who knows, maybe this is the year it defeats the SEC (but I hope not).
OSU is built to compete against Big Ten teams, and against its conference foes they have been dominant. But for whatever reason it just doesn’t seem to fare well against SEC Teams
OSU’s defense is built to stop teams like Arkansas, Michigan, Indiana, Purdue and Oregon. Not “Big Ten teams” like Wisconsin.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Fair point but
I’m just stating the obvious that, like it or not, OSU has dominated the Big Ten for the last decade (more or less), largely on the strength of their D, and that includes Wisconsin. This year the Badgers have steamrolled just about everyone with their monstrous running game. The Hawks’ D almost got it done but had a few too many brain farts on special teams (fake punt, hello?). And it’s strange that they haven’t been able to beat an SEC team or two over the years. I don’t buy the whole “SEC is fast and Big Ten teams just can’t keep up with them” argument. OSU has solid recruiting classes every year, right, so I don’t see how the Southern schools can have such an advantage in talent. Maybe it’s just this: year after year, OSU has been really, really good, but the SEC teams they have played have been just a little…bit…better.
And if Mallett comes out on fire, OSU is not built to stop the Hogs either.
By the way
Remember the BCS championship game where Tedd Ginn rolled his ankle celebrating his game-opening kickoff-return TD? Remember how the game went for the Buckeyes after that?
If I was a coach, I would absolutely ban the jump-high-five or jump-body-bump TD celebrations. Absolutely ridiculous. Why do that given the risk for blowing out a knee or spraining an ankle when you land? If you pull that on my team, your butt is sitting on the bench for a series.
I still have nightmares over that injury.
Our problem against Florida in 2006 and LSU in 2007 was never the skill positions. Our line was tortured by the defensive ends and Smith and Boeckman had no time to throw. Our best offense was running the ball down their throats (Pittman dominated Florida for a long TD drive to get the score to 21-14, and Beanie dominated LSU all first half) but we abandoned the run because we got down by so many points, then their pass rushers teed off. It was a lack of elite talent on the o-lines those years and poor coaching by Jim Bollman, to line coach. Our current o-line is significantly better, and coincidentally has three 5 star Rival’s players (Brewster, Shugarts, Adams), which is two more total than we had in the 8 previous Jim Tressel years (Alex Boone was his lone 5 star lineman recruit from 2001-2008)
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Seems a bit unfair to put those failures on an untalented/poorly coached o-line.
After all, both of those teams had all-conference guys, whether or not they were top recruits. As you said, OSU had to come from behind, which means you get in obvious passing situations, facing a nasty defense pinning its ears back to rush the QB…recipie for disaster.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to a more competitive game this time around.
Those failures were surely a team effort.
But the major, and underlying problem was our inability to recruit, develop and block along the offensive line. Florida and LSU did, we didn’t. My application essay to Ohio State was on this very topic lol.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
Speaking of Pryor...
Any chance we can get a photo op of Terrelle Pryor and Senator Mark Pryor? I was a grad student at the U of A for three years after he was first elected. But as an Iowan now, I have to say there’s one Senator you never hear from in the national media, though I suppose that’s not all bad. Just an observation, no need to get a political thread going here.
What if . . .
Mallett flashes back to his days at Michigan? Does that mean y’all automatically win because Michigan can’t beat Ohio St?
Well, who would have thought...
….Mallett was going to have his best chance to beat the Buckeyes playing for Arkansas.
His first play as a true freshman against Ohio State was a strip sack (recovered by Michigan, but alas), He then overthrew a pass that would’ve been a touchdown.
lol, here’s to him reverting back to those days, but I don’t think that’s gonna happen. Damn.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs
suspensions
what is osu nation’s take on the recent development regarding the 5 players??
As fans, we're a little catatonic.
The main word is disappointment. We’re all just upset that the players would do something like this. Yea, the rule is dumb, yea, it’s their own personal property, yea, they should be able to sell it because who cares, and yea, they weren’t taking $500 handshakes from boosters or being paid for work they weren’t doing, but they still broke the rules and deserve their punishments.
The 2008 class came into OSU with a mountain of expectations, and while they are sitting at 30-4 with 3 Big Ten titles and 3 BCS bowl appearances (including a Rose Bowl win and potential Sugar Bowl trophy) they have always left us wanting more. This was their year and they couldn’t get it done. Terrelle was supposed to win the Heisman and be this transcendent superstar, and while he has been excellent, he always will be a notch below what he should have been, much like the class as a whole, even if they win the Sugar Bowl. I’ll speak for myself in saying that I am done defending Pryor, he is what he is. A talented, successful, yet frustrating and inconsistent prodigy. Never really unstoppable but never benign either. He has consistently embarrassed himself with his comments/actions off the field, and this is the straw that breaks the camel’s back. As the leader and figure head for the team, the fact that he allowed himself to get into this mess, his intentions (“helping his family”) noble or not, is inexcusable and selfish. I will always love him and appreciate what he has done for the university, but the Braxton Miller era can’t get here fast enough. I hope these players learn and grow from their mistakes, but I don’t want them back next year.
Because I think that Pryor, Posey, Adams and Boom are gone after this game, theBowl is their national championship. This is their Glendale. Win and they will be remembered for their play, their transgressions a mere footnote. Lose? And they will always be remembered as that group that never could put it all together, despite the hype and expectations. This game will define their Buckeye legacies forever.
"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

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