Rodney Dangerfield Wears a Hog Hat : No Respect, I Tell Ya!
As the link below in the "Monday Hodge Podge" section of the blog references, there is a lot of talk going around about conference expansions and realignments. Who knows, by the time it is all over we might have Mexico relocated to the north of us and Canada to the south of us, haha. Hey, is that any more bizarre than the idea of having Texas play in the Big Ten? As a Hog fan, I feel like there is no way we should leave where we are right now. I don't care what Steve Spurrier wishes would happen or thinks he is hearing out there in Columbia about us leaving the SEC. But something I am hearing, thus the title to this post, is some disrespect about the notion of Arkansas being in the SEC to begin with, which was sorta the subtext of Spurrier's recent comment if you ask me. Here is an even more recent quote from a blogger on collegefootballnews.com.
"So if Missouri bolts who is the replacement? To me the number one option is the Arkansas Razorbacks. Why you ask? The Hogs have struggled to compete in the major sports while a member of the SEC in recent years, Arkansas’s recruiting grounds do not match up geographically with the teams they play in conference and to me both the Hogs and South Carolina have never really fit in as a conference member since joining the SEC."
Several things to say about this. First, why would Arkansas want to go take a worse deal moneywise that Missouri is leaving behind in the Big 12? There are reasons why Missouri might be leaving. And at the top of their list is money. Second, at one time LSU, Florida, and Alabama all struggled in football in "recent years." Did they go looking for a possibily easier conference to play in? But you are little Arkansas, so you and South Carolina really should consider leaving the SEC. That is the attitude that is out there. Granted, Arkansas has not won an SEC title in football since joining the conference. But when was the last time Ole Miss, Miss State, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky won a title? Before a lot of us were born, actually! Out of those schools, they have a combined total number of appearances in Atlanta of one time. The Hogs have been there three times since joining the league, most recently just four seasons ago. As a newcomer, I think we are holding our own.
No matter which conference the Hogs are in, our "recruiting grounds" are always going to be grounds that other larger and more successful schools are also looking at. Just ask Oklahoma State how much of an advantage it has been to be in the same conference as Texas when it comes to recruiting down in the Lonestar state. In terms of wins and losses, nada. OSU hasn't beaten Texas in over a decade.
Finally, I don't know what "never fit in" really means. I doubt the blogger does either. Culturally, I think Hog fans are closer from where they come from to the college towns of the SEC as opposed to the farm / plains country of the BIG 12 North and the Southwest urban centers of Austin and Lubbock. We have worshipped the pigskin in Arkansas for as long as other SEC schools have, going back to 1894. Maybe he sees Fayetteville on a map and sees it up in the northwest corner of the state and doesn't see the rest of the state where most of the Arkansas fanbase actually comes from. I will, however, give ground on one point here. Arkansas hasn't for some time played consistently well on defense like other SEC schools. But I don't think that is reason enough to pack our bags. It is simply reason enough to get better (I am looking at you, Willy Robinson) at playing defense.
So what should we make of such talk about Arkansas jumping ship because we don't belong in the SEC and could possibly be more successful somewhere else? I say let it add a few more pounds to the chips on our shoulders and let's go out there with those same shoulders and block and tackle our way to an SEC Championship! What say ya?
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Pulitzer worthy, sir.
I say this with a grain of salt, but I truly believe that the rest of the SEC is scared of us. Not because we’re heavily favored to win it all (yet), but because we’re a serious threat to derail someone’s season and could win it all if we happen to derail the right team. As one of the “stepchildren”, we’re “not supposed to do that”, and the rest of the conference would just as soon see us gone before we can cause any real damage to the status quo.
Fun fact: Arkansas sits at #5 on the all-time SEC mens’ sports championship list, with 72, despite have been in the league for only 20 years. That’s ahead of ’Bama and ’Barn, both of whom have obviously been in the SEC much longer. For comparison sake, SC has 8 in that same time frame.
Thanks, dxf04, for both
the compliment and the facts and figures at the end of your comment. That track team does do us proud, doesn’t it?
Why would we leave the fertile money grounds of the SEC and ESPN
To go to raycom or the big ten network, YEAH RIGHT. I feel that we are right on the cusp in football to start mingling with the big boys on a yearly bases. Baseball and Track are in the upper half of the league, Basketball needs to step up but really the SEC needs the HOG B-Ball team to step up and take it’s rightful spot in the west to give Kentucky and Tenn, someone in the west that really cares about basketball and show them what REAL fans can do at the games.
As an Ole Miss fan...
I’d like to interject here. You know that Ole Miss is a founding member of the SEC. However, I don’t view the Razorbacks as a “step-child” of any sort. Heck, everyone was calling us that during the Orgeron years. Houston Nutt won or tied for the SEC West three times while at Arkansas. Dave Van Horn is doing an amazing job as baseball coach. Not too long ago, the Razorbacks were tearing it up on the basketball hardwood. Let’s not forget the success of the track team.
Anyway, this blogger from collegefootballnews.com is a moron. Was it Pete Fuitak? He hates Ole Miss too.
dxf04-You know I value your contributions on the RedCup, but I don’t think the rest of the SEC is scared of you. However, I do think that Arkansas sports are respected by other SEC members.
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by BrianWalker'sElbow on May 10, 2010 10:34 PM CDT reply actions
Well, like I said, grain of salt.
“Scared” was perhaps not the right word.
In the waning days of the SWC, I know Texas was glad to be rid of us because we “ruined” their season a few too many times for their comfort. I truly feel like that’s how most of the SEC feels about us, if only proactively, especially since Arkansas is constantly on the chopping block in hypothetical SEC expansion/rearrangement discussions.
Actually winning the SEC in football will go a long way towards reversing that perception, even if it’s only in my head, so fingers crossed.
No good reason
A historic rivalry with Texas is not a good enough reason to leave, too many people have made a big deal out of the old SWC. Arkansas is in the greenest of pastures at the moment and regardless of what some idiot blogger says, the Hogs are a great fit in the SEC. I totally agree that culturally, geographically, money-wise and recruiting-wise the Hogs are at home in the SEC.
Only one thing to do
The only way we can help change the national perception is by winning consistently for an extended period. I think we have to earn it. I do feel that we belong in the SEC and we have competed well in both football and basketball. But I think the perception exists nationally, and maybe even within the SEC, that we are middle to bottom tier. That can all change in the next couple of years.
I would like to see more discussion about all the proposed realignment and its impact on the Hogs.

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